Comments on: The Lessons of Laodicea (The Seven Cities of Revelation, Part I) http://www.fishingtheabyss.com/archives/25 Living close enough to the edge to matter... Fri, 20 Aug 2010 15:12:37 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: CRN.Info and Analysis http://www.fishingtheabyss.com/archives/25/comment-page-1#comment-1878 CRN.Info and Analysis Fri, 06 Apr 2007 17:30:36 +0000 http://www.fishingtheabyss.com/?p=25#comment-1878 [...] Contrary to his claims, this has nothing to do with the admonition to the church of Laodicea, which the Slice crowd seems to consistently misapply. [...] [...] Contrary to his claims, this has nothing to do with the admonition to the church of Laodicea, which the Slice crowd seems to consistently misapply. [...]

]]> By: the quiet one http://www.fishingtheabyss.com/archives/25/comment-page-1#comment-63 the quiet one Sat, 09 Sep 2006 08:13:10 +0000 http://www.fishingtheabyss.com/?p=25#comment-63 The last image reminds me of a Messianic sader that I once attended. I was told that the shabbat (the center candle in the menorah) was known as the "helper candle", but that the historical significance and symbolic meaning was unclear. But when the Jew becomes "complete" (salvation through Jesus Christ) the "helper" is understood to be Jesus. This is the first time, however, that I have seen the image of the cross in place of the shabbat. Fascinating! The last image reminds me of a Messianic sader that I once attended. I was told that the shabbat (the center candle in the menorah) was known as the “helper candle”, but that the historical significance and symbolic meaning was unclear. But when the Jew becomes “complete” (salvation through Jesus Christ) the “helper” is understood to be Jesus.

This is the first time, however, that I have seen the image of the cross in place of the shabbat. Fascinating!

]]> By: Chris L. http://www.fishingtheabyss.com/archives/25/comment-page-1#comment-28 Chris L. Fri, 25 Aug 2006 15:03:54 +0000 http://www.fishingtheabyss.com/?p=25#comment-28 John, My primary sources for this were: 1. Lectures from <a href="http://community.gospelcom.net/Brix?pageID=14588" rel="nofollow">Dr. Tim Brown</a> of Western Theological Seminary in Holland, MI. He led a study tour to Israel and Turkey (the 7 churches of Revelation) this past spring, of which I was a member. 2. Writings, lectures and video from <a href="http://www.followtherabbi.org/" rel="nofollow">Rev. Ray VanderLaan</a>, some from his website (excellent audio-cast lessons), some from a weekend seminar, and from Lesson 5 in <a href= "http://www.christianbook.com/Christian/Books/product?item_no=257158&netp_id=331430&event=ESRCN&item_code=WW" rel="nofollow">Faith Lessons on the Early Church, Vol. 5</a>. All 7 volumes in the "Faith Lessons" series are excellent! 3. On-site commentary in Laodicea from a guide connected to their dig team. 4. Online verification of geographic and historical events through wikipedia and other references (including archived writings of Roman historians). Secondary sources I've used for my Hebrew Context articles include: 1. <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0802804233/102-0353790-9093760?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=283155" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Our Father Abraham: Jewish Roots of the Christian Faith</a></em> by Marvin Wilson, 2. <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1880226685/102-0353790-9093760?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=283155" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Yeshua: A Guide to the Real Jesus and the Original Church</a></em> by Ron Moseley, 3. <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/156043550X/ref=pd_sim_b_2/002-6269913-5966457?ie=UTF8" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><em>Understanding the Difficult Words of Jesus: New Insights from a Hebraic Perspective</em></a> by David Bivin & Roy Blizzard</li> I have two or three more that I've only started reading, and I don't recommend what I haven't totally read. I hope this helps! Grace & peace, Chris John,

My primary sources for this were:
1. Lectures from Dr. Tim Brown of Western Theological Seminary in Holland, MI. He led a study tour to Israel and Turkey (the 7 churches of Revelation) this past spring, of which I was a member.
2. Writings, lectures and video from Rev. Ray VanderLaan, some from his website (excellent audio-cast lessons), some from a weekend seminar, and from Lesson 5 in Faith Lessons on the Early Church, Vol. 5. All 7 volumes in the “Faith Lessons” series are excellent!
3. On-site commentary in Laodicea from a guide connected to their dig team.
4. Online verification of geographic and historical events through wikipedia and other references (including archived writings of Roman historians).

Secondary sources I’ve used for my Hebrew Context articles include:

1. Our Father Abraham: Jewish Roots of the Christian Faith by Marvin Wilson,
2. Yeshua: A Guide to the Real Jesus and the Original Church by Ron Moseley,
3. Understanding the Difficult Words of Jesus: New Insights from a Hebraic Perspective by David Bivin & Roy Blizzard

I have two or three more that I’ve only started reading, and I don’t recommend what I haven’t totally read. I hope this helps!

Grace & peace,

Chris

]]> By: John http://www.fishingtheabyss.com/archives/25/comment-page-1#comment-27 John Fri, 25 Aug 2006 06:48:34 +0000 http://www.fishingtheabyss.com/?p=25#comment-27 Great post. Can you add a little bibliography of the books you've read on this. I'd like to get some of them. Great post. Can you add a little bibliography of the books you’ve read on this. I’d like to get some of them.

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