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	<title>Comments on: Biblical Pacifism</title>
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		<title>By: Chris L.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 17:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Len, I&#039;m sure you won&#039;t be surprised, but there&#039;s some Hebrew context around the &quot;casting stones&quot; incident that I&#039;ve written about on the PPP blog &lt;a href=&quot;http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2008/01/28/misused-scripture-of-the-day-casting-stones/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Len, I&#8217;m sure you won&#8217;t be surprised, but there&#8217;s some Hebrew context around the &#8220;casting stones&#8221; incident that I&#8217;ve written about on the PPP blog <a href="http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2008/01/28/misused-scripture-of-the-day-casting-stones/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Len Winneroski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Len Winneroski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 17:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow!  These two posts have really made me think...thank you! One verse that came to mind as I read this was John 8:7 &quot;When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.”  On the other hand, King David, a fellow sinner, was not afraid to &quot;throw a stone&quot; at a Philistine champion who was defying the armies of the living God (1 Samuel 17) and yet was described as a man after God&#039;s own heart according to BOTH the Old and New Testament  (Acts 13:22-23 and 1 Samuel 13:13-14).  I am a simple man but my dad once wisely told me that often the truth is in the middle…..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!  These two posts have really made me think&#8230;thank you! One verse that came to mind as I read this was John 8:7 &#8220;When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.”  On the other hand, King David, a fellow sinner, was not afraid to &#8220;throw a stone&#8221; at a Philistine champion who was defying the armies of the living God (1 Samuel 17) and yet was described as a man after God&#8217;s own heart according to BOTH the Old and New Testament  (Acts 13:22-23 and 1 Samuel 13:13-14).  I am a simple man but my dad once wisely told me that often the truth is in the middle…..</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 19:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it possible to support both. I&#039;m not so much all about the allegiance of my country, though I do hold it dear to my heart. I&#039;m not for war in regards for greedy gain or selfish agenda. I&#039;m concerned that we would watch little girls be kid napped and traded into the prostituion slave business. I will take my chances before Christ at the judgement seat. why did you hit that man, I did&#039;nt hate him but I did love that girl and I could&#039;nt watch her treated that way anymore. going into iraq, no not a fan, though i did support it for years. but defending my kids from a murderer yes. much love pat</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it possible to support both. I&#8217;m not so much all about the allegiance of my country, though I do hold it dear to my heart. I&#8217;m not for war in regards for greedy gain or selfish agenda. I&#8217;m concerned that we would watch little girls be kid napped and traded into the prostituion slave business. I will take my chances before Christ at the judgement seat. why did you hit that man, I did&#8217;nt hate him but I did love that girl and I could&#8217;nt watch her treated that way anymore. going into iraq, no not a fan, though i did support it for years. but defending my kids from a murderer yes. much love pat</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Muller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Muller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 22:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is true.  I think my political views somewhat determine my religious views.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is true.  I think my political views somewhat determine my religious views.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris L.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 16:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I believe states are man-made and have nothing to do with God. God gave Israel judges, but they wanted a King so even the first Biblical theocracy was man-made.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Actually, Paul, in Romans 13 calls governments &quot;God&#039;s servants&quot;, and the instructions for Kings were given in Deuteronomy, long before Israel asked for a King.  Both of these things surprised me, somewhat, and have been problematic in my own soul-searching on a number of issues dealing with government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I believe states are man-made and have nothing to do with God. God gave Israel judges, but they wanted a King so even the first Biblical theocracy was man-made.</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually, Paul, in Romans 13 calls governments &#8220;God&#8217;s servants&#8221;, and the instructions for Kings were given in Deuteronomy, long before Israel asked for a King.  Both of these things surprised me, somewhat, and have been problematic in my own soul-searching on a number of issues dealing with government.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Muller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Muller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 06:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;When Jesus speaks about doing good to our enemies and blessing those who curse you, He never gave a caveat that suggested you could abrogate those commands if the nation in which you were living decided a war was necessary.&quot; I like that one.  I believe states are man-made and have nothing to do with God. God gave Israel judges, but they wanted a King so even the first Biblical theocracy was man-made.  

My biggest concern with war is as you pointed out, what if there are Christians on the other side?  Both feel the war is necessary in the national interest and commit a heinous offence against a brother.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;When Jesus speaks about doing good to our enemies and blessing those who curse you, He never gave a caveat that suggested you could abrogate those commands if the nation in which you were living decided a war was necessary.&#8221; I like that one.  I believe states are man-made and have nothing to do with God. God gave Israel judges, but they wanted a King so even the first Biblical theocracy was man-made.  </p>
<p>My biggest concern with war is as you pointed out, what if there are Christians on the other side?  Both feel the war is necessary in the national interest and commit a heinous offence against a brother.</p>
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